REDSAIL X700 60W LASER ENGRAVER REVIEW

This is going to be a quick review/first impressions of the infamous ebay/china laser engraver/cutter. I will add on to this review as i get more experience with the machine.

Link to the machine on ebay.

I have used this machine for about a month now and i couldn’t be happier with it. Everything you need to get it up and running comes with the machine in a well packaged wooden box.

I also bought a honeycomb platform as this is something recomended by the laser community.

The machine cost $2499.00 and the honeycomb about $100. When i did research on getting a laser cutter, a machine like this from china is concidered one step up from the cheapest hobbyist machines you can get. But i dont get why it has a somewhat bad reputation, as the machine has a very professional look and feel to it, and build quality is much better than i expected.
It also works like a charm.

Setting up the machine was very straight forward. I only encountered one minor problem. On the back of the machine there is 3 outlets, so i figured this was power for the water chiller, airpump and fan. When i first turned the machine on the fuse in the power inlet of the machine blew. After a brief troubleshooting i changed the fuse and used extension cord to power the water chiller, air pump and fan. After that it purred like a kitty.

The machine comes with a disc containing instructional videos and usermanual.Click here to download the contents of the disk.

When the machine is up and running the first thing is to test it out. As you can see from the gallery below, alot of testing is required to get a sense of how the machine works if you have no prior experience with laser cutters.

The software that comes with the machine is really easy to use and get started with.

For the price, you get a lot for your money. If you encounter any problems with the machine, the folks at CNCCHEAP will help you out. Every email i sent to them was answered the same day or the next.

If you have any questions regarding this machine, feel free to leave a comment below.

Author: Christian Arnø

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  1. Hi,

    We are considering buying one of these for cardiff hackspace, are your thoughts on it still possitive after 1 year of use? any major issues we should know about?

    thanks

    Ben

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    • Yes i absolutely love this machine, and i can highly recommend it as a tool for a hackerspace 🙂

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    • hello, can you tell me if this machine can mount the rotation system, to engrave cylindrical objects?

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      • I have a similar laser except it is running RDworks do you know where I can get an accurate set of instructions to set up my roller rotary attachment?

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        • RDworks is similar to my software, and here is what it says in the manual:

          4.9.2 Rotate Engraving
          【Enable rotate engrave】:After enable engraving,the actual precision of Y-axis will be based on diameter and step per rotate to auto match the setting of pulse precision of Y-axis. In addition, the work area in the main interface will also change.
          【Diameter】:The diameter size of the parts.
          【Step per rotate】:The number of pulse corresponds to the workpiece rotate one week.
          The function is to facilitate the users to replace parts, and different size of the workpiece when the workpiece is not very different before use. When the relatively large difference in size of the workpiece, it is recommended to use directly modify the motor step approach to implementation.
          Rotary engraving is only when using the rotation axis to replace the Y-axis use.

          If you need any help just let me know 🙂

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  2. Hey Christian.

    Would you mind getting in touch me and answering a few questions about the X700 and the process of buying it? Would be much appreciated, it’s a fair bit of money to spend and it would be great to get some info from someone with first hand experience.

    Regards
    /Fredrik

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  3. Can you tell me the dimensions of the machines? I am thinking of buying one but don’t know if it is going to fit through the door. Ebay and Amazon have different numbers on their pages.

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    • Height = 95cm
      Width = 116cm
      Depth = 87cm

      But keep in mind that the legs can be taken off so that the height becomes only 52cm. Then it would fit trough most doors 🙂

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  4. Hi Christian,

    Thanks for the review. I just have a question about the working size. They say 500×700, is that the actual x/y travel of the laserhead ?

    Thanks
    Andre

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  5. Hello Christian,

    i just bought the X700 from redsail, i have updated the firmware to the latest version available on Topwisdom website since then i am having issues, have you updated your firmware or is it still as when you received it?

    Thanks.

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    • I have never updated the software for the X700. Why did you? Did you have a problem with the machine?
      I would never upgrade the software unless i had problems.

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  6. Hi Christian, are you able to print directly from Corel Draw to the Redsail, or do you need to export to DXF first and use the LaserMate program?

    Ken

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    • I have only tried Corel Draw with the add-on that came with the machine, not with Corel Draw by it self.

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  7. hello christian, i have lost the focal ruler of my x700. Can you please tell me the size yours. I haved asked but didnt get any answer so far from the company.

    thanks a lot
    George

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  8. Hello Christian,

    I just bought this machine from redsail, and I agree with you ; its really good looking, seems sturdy.
    I would like to ask some questions if you don’t mind :
    – did you try to use the machine without a computer connected, is it usable ?
    – they recommend windows xp, does it it work with W7 ?

    Thank’s a lot for your review !
    Have a nice day.

    Didier

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    • When i first got the machine i tried putting files on a USB memorystick to transfer the file to the machine. I was NOT successful in doing this. I remember i tried a couple of times, but quickly started using a USB cable directly from the computer and never looked back.
      I use windows 7 and i have had no problems using the machine 🙂

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      • Dear Christian,

        do you have other lenses, in particular large focal ones ?
        If yes, where did you bought them ?
        What thickness of wood (MDM) can you cut through ?

        Thank’s !

        Didier

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        • I have other lenses, but have only tried the one with 2″ focal length. I get all my lenses from ebay. (Just remember to get the correct lense according to wavelength and diameter)
          I can cut through 18mm of pine, but i have upgraded the laser to 100W.

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  9. Can you please tell me how low does the table go in this unit
    i need to engrave on a powder coated 5 1/2″ pipe
    and want to make sure this units table will go low enoungh

    thank you

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    • That will be fine. The table can go as low as 24cm/9,7″
      If you remove the honeycomb you get a maximum depth of approx. 31cm/12″

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  10. hi ,We are seeking for advice.We are planning to start a small printery and we do think we shall have to also do some engraving work.We have little money.Which machine would you recommend for us to buy?Are there some used engraving machines but still good.thanx

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    • A laser engraver is a pretty simple machine, so if you find a cheap one on ebay that has the size you want, it should be good enough. If you are only going to do engraving and not cutting, you should probably look at machines with around 40W lasertube, as it is mostly the tube that makes a machine expensive.

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  11. Hi Christian,

    You have given a positive review for this machine and I trust that it is still working well for you? I am looking for an engraver that is versatile. How many hours can this machine run for? We will be filling orders of 500pc with a graphic size of around 3″x5″x2″ on a cork cylinder that is 4.75″d. Does it come with a rotary tool?

    I have also read about getting a different cooling system for this model. What has your experience been with the venting as well?

    Thanks,

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    • I truly love this machine 🙂 I am not sure how many hours it can go in one sitting, but as long as you monitor the temperature on the laser-tube there shouldn’t be a limit. The longest i have used the machine in one go is approx. 8 hours. A rotary tool is optional and adds $200 to the price if i remember correctly. The industrial fan that came with that machine stopped working after about 7 months.

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  12. Hi,

    Thank you for the information — very informative .

    I am looking at purchasing the M500 Lite Version (as I don’t have a studio – easier to move etc and cheaper) and upgrading the 50W tube to 60W – can you see this having any implications? Do you know much about the M500? I’m assuming it will have much the same pros/cons as your machine.

    I’m tempted to buy a Full Spectrum Laser from the States but the M500 laser is too good a price and has mainly positive reviews.

    I’ll be working on small architectural models, generally .5-1mm so the bed size/power shouldn’t be an issue.

    Any information/comments much appreciated!

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    • If the M500 comes with a 50W laser, then you probably need to upgrade the powersupply also if you are upgrading the lasertube to 60W. You probably dont need an upgrade if you are only cutting up to 1mm materials.
      Try not to use the laser at 100% as this will wear out the tube faster. If the machine has a milliamp meter, keep the power at max 28mA.

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  13. Hi, I purchased the same machine. Regarding the rotary axis. My machine has a place to plug in the rotary but I cannot find a way to disable the machine y axis and engage the rotary axis. The stepper motor is hard wired.

    Thanks for your help,
    Robert C.

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    • You cant have the Y-axis and the rotary axis connected at the same time. You should disconnect the Y-axis when connecting the rotary axis.

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  14. Hi Christian,

    We just recently recieved 2 Red Sail laser cutters for our “Makerspace”. I have a couple of questions about this machine both from the standpoint of whether it is suitable for a grade school and also a few electrical questions. I s there a way we could speak briefly?

    Thanks Andy

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    • You can ask any question here in the comments, so that the answers can benefit everyone 🙂

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  15. Hello,

    You mention you buy lenses on eBay. Can you share link to the ones you buy?
    Where did you get the Honeycomb?

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  16. Thanks for the nice review! I went through the comments but did not find that what kind of water chiller are you using there. Do you use Chinese ones like CW3000 or CW5000?

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  17. Have you been using a safety glasses when engraving? I have seen a lot of videos in which guys are using CO2 laser even a lid open. How do you deal with the safety issues?

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    • I use safety glasses all the time when engraving/cutting glass and clear plastics, but rarely with wood.

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  18. Er det fremdeles den som er linket til i toppen som du vil anbefale å bestille fra?

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  19. You mentioned you are using a CW-3000 chiller w/ a 100w laser but have not mentioned what type of environment (weather/average temperatures) you deal w/. I only bring this up as I’m sure these factors also will help determine if an individual will require better heat dissipation. I just received an 100w laser that only came w/ a pump but through all the forums and equipment resellers descriptions say the pump is good for anything up to 50w, CW-3000 is a good chiller for 60w – 80w, and that it is recommended to get a CW-5000 or CW-5200 for anything 100w – 150w. What kind of insight can you provide in this instance? If any? I just don’t want to cause catastrophic damage to my investment.

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    • I am really not an expert on this kind of thing. I have never even considered that the chiller might not be up to the task of chilling the 100W tube, but i do monitor the temperature of the water and if it gets above 35 degrees celsius i give the machine a break.
      Temperatures here in my garage ranges between 12-25 degrees celcius.

      With the latest tube i am trying to keep myself below 70% power so that the milliamperemeter never goes above 26mA. I am trying to make it last upwards of 10.000 hours. Last one lasted only about 2500 hours, but i used it constantly on 100% power.

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    • I have never encountered this problem. What type of file did you use? Does it happen at the same spot if you move the graphics to a other place in the machine?

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  20. CommentHi! I’ve got my Redsail 500X700 60W LASER ENGRAVER, I invite you to help me who has such a machine! email me, lost in the parameters of the machine: esz******@gmail.com

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  21. Hi mate

    Im looking to buy my first machine and want the option of being able to cut thicker material. CNCCHEAP have your machine in 100w http://m.ebay.ca/itm/RECI-100W-Co2-700x500mm-Laser-Engraving-Cutting-Machine-Engraver-Cutter-USB-/112141443625?nav=SEARCH Any idea why this is pretty much the same price as the 60w? They have informed me that i pay for import tax and other import charges seperately… Did you also pay these charges seperatly? And if so how much did it all come to?

    Im in the UK by the way, not sure if you mentioned where you are in the world? Maybe i missed it.

    P.s Your review is beyond helpful… Couldnt have asked for a better one myself and iv been reseraching extensively for about a week now.

    Thanks

    Ben

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    • Thanks for kind words 🙂
      Well you should take the wattage with a grain of salt, as the 60W version came wit a powersupply for a 50W laser, and i have heard that cheap lasertubes from china is often under-powered. So im guessing the 100W tube is actually a 80 watt tube. The cheap tubes lasts only around 2-5000 hours, but if you get a Reci branded one it can last upwards of 10.000.

      I live in Norway and when the machine came into the country i had to pay about $1200 in different fees to get the machine.

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      • Thanks for all the info!
        Do you remember what the shipping was also? I am trying to work out the total cost for the machine. I understand so far the cost was $2499 + customs $1200 + shipping?

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  22. Hi…. Did you have to earth it yourself? If so what did you use?

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    • I have not done anything to ground the machine. I suppose it gets ground through the powerplug.

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  23. Hi Christian top blog. I have been researching different laser machines for the past month and this has helped me put some perspective on the lower priced machines compared to the epilog and trotec machines.
    The one question I have, which doesn’t seem to have been mentioned is regarding the machines ability to engrave and accurately cut intricate small detail artworks on paper and card.
    This would be a huge part of purchasing decision so any help would be greatly appreciated

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    • I have no experience with epilog or trotec, but im betting this machine can cut and engrave just as good as those machines. With epilog and trotec you will probably get better software, but the machine is basicly the same.

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  24. Hello

    I bought this machine to work on plexi and acrilyc

    But my machine dont cuts mirrored plexi 3 mm sometimes speed 10mm 50% that’s annoying

    If i go sower it burns the plexi and there ar bubbles

    Second question

    I i engrave there are shadows about the engrave

    Look at the picture for both questions

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0-lfs4H1cs_QzJfejBrLVlyQjA

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    • About the cutting : Are youre workpiece level? Are your laser centered on all mirrors when lasering on all 4 corners of your cutting area. You are only at 50%, why not just increase the power?

      About the engraving: You are engraving with too much power. Make a test engraving using different power settings and see what result is better. The shadows are heat damage.

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    • Hello again

      i found the problem my honeycomb was uneven so the laser cut at some areas.

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      • To adjust the z-height you have to loosen the belt in the bottom and then adjust every corner manually until the height is equal across the entire platform.

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  25. Hello

    Im working with this machine anf istalled the ventilator

    But it sucks no smoke
    Has anybody a tipp for me?

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    • What ventilator are you using? Does the fan rotate in the ventilator? Check to see if the mesh inside the machine on the left side are clogged (i have removed mine).

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  26. Hi, thanks or the wonderful info! I’ve been contemplating purchashing this for use to cut small solar cells and FR4 PCBs – have you had any experience cutting these / can you offer some advice if it’s feasible with the ~40W?

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    • No problem 🙂
      You can probably cut the solar cells, but regarding the PCBs then im not sure. It could probably cut the PCB itself, but the laser can not cut trough metal at all. Not even with 100W…

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  27. I am currently considering purchasing this machine. I am wanting to engrave metal cups. Do you know if it will work with the compound that you put on metal before you engrave it? I am sure it will work with painted metal but I am wondering about stainless steel.

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    • If you use the product “Thermark” before engraving the metal cups it should work just fine 🙂

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  28. Hi, you mention where you buy your lens. Do you use the same supplier for mirrors? Can you share a link to the mirror you buy.
    They are 20mm? Did you get a tool to change mirror or did you make one yourself?

    Thanks.

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  29. Hello

    i have two questions about working area

    1. actually my zero point (start point ) of the laser head is out of the honeyconb size so how can i change the zero point?

    2. my cutting size ist 500×700 and the honeycomb is about 600×700, the start point of the laserhead has about 10 distanc to the top. because there are sensors and thats normal. but one day i startet the machine it goes out of the working area ( out of the sensor and it startet at the zop with 0 distance.

    thats what i need i want to work so everytime but actually it works like pic 1

    my english is not perfect so i hope everybody know what i mean.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0-lfs4H1cs_Zkh0LU1oVExuNlk/view?usp=sharing

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    • Only way i can think of to change the zero point is to move the micro switches that the machine uses to calibrate during startup. There should be a offset feature in the software, but i cant find this in the software i use.

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  30. Hi! I want to buy x700 to cut mostly cordura fabric. Do you buy the machine on ebay? Who is the seller? Is it delivered to your door? How about shipping cost?
    Thank you

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    • The seller is cnccheap.com. Their ebay store is her: http://stores.ebay.com/cnccheap Shipping cost was free if i remember correctly, but i had to pay extra because i wanted it delivered to a different port. ship by sea with CIF term, port to port, not to door, buyers need to clear customs, pay taxes and arrange local shipping to place.

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  31. How can I engrave yeti cups?

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  32. I just wanted to let you know that I purchased this laser partly based on your review.

    I’m really happy with it!

    Thanks for your helpful commentary.

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  33. China made Redsail lasers are fairly cheap compared to other brands and available through local resellers.

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  34. Christian,

    Thanks for all the information, I am planning to purchase this machine based on your recommendation. Bill

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  35. Christian,
    My shop is located on the first floor of a commercial business. On one side is a restaurant and on the second floor is a apartment with the children’s bedroom over my shop. I am concerned about the noise level. I operate a shop vacuum which generate the most noise and it is not a problem. Do you think the laser generate a lot of noise? Bill

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  36. You won t find them by searching for the RedSail brand though, so search for “60W CO2 laser” and then you ll see the listings.

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  37. great review about the article, however I am looking for a laser engraving machine for bigger project… your machine is small…I got one article from google which may be useful for you, http://10trumps.com/best-laser-engraving-machine/ … if you can suggest me some more big laser engraver, that will be great! many thanks!

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    • I have only used this size machine but as long as you purchase a brand thats well known like Redsail

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  38. Hello,

    Let me introduce myself: I’m Bernd from The Netherlands.
    We just arived our brand new Redsail Laser X700 machine from China. We have some hick ups and problems by getting up and running. Could we please have contact by asking you some questions? I have send my contact details by email to you.

    I’m waiting for your response.

    Kind regards,
    Bernd

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  39. You won t find them by searching for the RedSail brand though, so search for “60W CO2 laser” and then you ll see the listings.

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  40. Hi was just wondering what is the maximum speed you can engrave a 20mm by 20mm square. Just wondering how fast the head can move across and down with a line spacing of 0.5mm.

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  41. Redsail determined it was user error , as they did not believe I had water circulating in the tube for this to happen, and I was left to buy a replacement laser.

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  42. Hi Christian,

    Thank you, fantastic review. I spent a lot of time checking between small hobby laser engraver and this machine, you’re absolutely right – it’s not much difference in cost, it’s affordable, now I see it’s good value for money and I consider to buy it in the future as it requires special room and connections.
    There are quite good examples in pictures with different settings (speed, power, etc), thank you as it’s really helpful and demonstrates what engraver can do.
    The only my concern is – I need to engrave or cut on organic glass (acrylic) which is not ideally flat, there is some curve, I’m thinking to get it with rotary tool option. Did you have chance to do engraving, cutting on non flat surface?

    Thank you. Vlad, Australia.

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    • Yes i often cut on warped plywood, so the distance between the wood and the laserhead can vary up to 4-5mm without any problem. When cutting non flat surfaces you should use lenses with 2.5″ focal length or higher. The larger the focal length the more room for error you have.

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